Posts in Jazz and Blues
Katie and the Wolves

Katie & The Wolves is a Manitoba based blues and Rock & Roll band. Vintage and classy with a bit of grit and driven by the blues. Katie & The Wolves are the real deal when it comes to Rock & Roll with no dues left to pay. Performing for over a decade, Katie is no stranger to the stage. Over the years, she has been writing songs for a number of notable projects, and spent many an evening on stage with road-dogs and Rock & Roll icons. Now she’s taking her wealth of experience and is stepping into the spotlight under her own banner with a great pack of supporting musicians.

 
 

All pre-recorded music has been removed from this episode. 

The set list originally featured in this episode is:

Katie & The Wolves “Loaded Gun“ from The Wild Unknown

Katie & The Wolves “The Wild Unknown“ from The Wild Unknown

Katie & The Wolves “The Wild Unknown“ from The Wild Unknown

For more local music, check out the Winnipeg Music Project website.

Thank you to UMFM 101.5FM. Music by Will and Art from Collector Studio.

Transition contributed by Aaron Bartel of Flat Land Soul Band.

Winnipeg Music Project | Katie & The Wolves

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Apollo Suns 4.0

Born from the fusing of eight Winnipeg, MB based musicians. Apollo Suns have created a refreshing and innovative sound and live performance combining jazz, funk, rock and psychedelic music. They are "Instrumental Artists of the Year" nominees at the 2018 at the Western Canadian Music Awards.

All pre-recorded music has been removed from this episode.

The set list originally featured in this episode:

Apollo Suns “Dark Night“ from Dawn Offerings

Apollo Suns “Passing By“ from Dawn Offerings

Apollo Suns “A Song for Sterling“ Dawn Offerings

For more local music, check out the Winnipeg Music Project (http://www.winnipegmusicproject.com/)

Thank you to UMFM 101.5FM (http://www.umfm.com/)

Music by Will and Art from Collector Studio (https://www.collectorstudio.net)

Transition contributed by Aaron Bartel (https://www.facebook.com/flatlandsoulband/)

Winnipeg Music Project | Ed Durocher from Apollo Suns, Ashley Bieniarz

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Flat Land Soul Band

The Flat Land Soul Band is Manitoba's primary keeper of the groove, providing the very best music of the 60s and 70s. Ranging anywhere from the smooth, sultry passion of Soul and R&B, to the classic Funk vibes that will make you get up offa that thing, this 9 piece band is a force to be reckoned with. Featuring a 5 part horn section made up entirely of highly skilled jazz performance majors, backed by an ultra tight rhythm section, and fronted by the city's best young vocalist, The Flat Land Soul Band has it all.

Set List:

Flat Land Soul Band “Mantra“ from Middle of Somewhere

Flat Land Soul Band “To My Mother“ from Middle of Somewhere

Flat Land Soul Band “What I wouldn’t Do“ from Middle of Somewhere

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Black River Drifters
 
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Set List:

Black River Drifters "Rumble Strips" from Drive by Feel

Black River Drifters "Down Near El Paso" from Drive by Feel

Black River Drifters "Old Friend" from Drive by Feel

Black River Drifters "These Chains I'm In" from Drive by Feel

Winnipeg Music Project - Black River Drifters

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The First Winnipeg Winter Blues Festival
The First Winnipeg Winter Blues Festival

 Set List:

Big Dave Mclean "You Can't Lose What you Ain't Never Had" from Better The Devil You Know

Romi Mayes "Easy On You" from Lucky Tonight

Big Dave Mclean "Deliver Me" Better The Devil You Know

Tim Butler "Long Road Blues" LIVE

Muddy Waters performed by Dave Mclean "I wanna go home"

The Perpetrators "Sweet Grass" The Perpetrators

Apollo Suns 3.0

Ed from Apollo Suns has come back on the Winnipeg Music Project to share the exciting news in the band's future. With a tour kick-off show planned for Saturday October 21, 2017 and a second album in the near future, these guys have been busy. It's always a pleasure having Ed on the show and this interview was definitely entertaining.

Listen to Ed's Previous Interviews on the Winnipeg Music Project:


Set List:

Apollo Suns "An Impossible Bond" from Each Day a Different Sun

Apollo Suns "A Study In Red" from Each Day a Different Sun

Apollo Suns "A Lesson In Sharing" from Each Day a Different Sun


Music Video for "An Impossible Bond"

 
 
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Mira Black

Mira Black came onto the Winnipeg Music Project to promote her upcoming project release on Sept. 10th called "Fearless" and had a very intimate conversation about vulnerability and getting out of your own head to share your intimate and sincere musical ideas.

Set List:

Mira Black "Tell Me" from Mira

Mira Black "Illusion" from Mira

Mira Black "Where are you" from Mira

Mira Black | Winnipeg Music Project

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Cilly Cyb Fung High

Kumaran Reddy from Cilly Cyb Fung High came onto the Winnipeg Music Project after meeting him at the WitchPolice Radio Big Mix Up series. He shared his story about growing up and moving to Manitoba at a young age and learning to love rock music and the magic of improvisation. Kumaran is well versed in any genre you can think of and has many wonderful stories about his involvement in the Winnipeg music community.

Events mentioned in episode:

 

Set List:

Cilly Cyb Fung High "Fung High Dub"

Cilly Cyb Fung High "Win Or Lose"

Cilly Cyb Fung High "Nublufuse" 

Winnipeg Music Project - Cilly Cyb Fung High

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Apollo Suns 2.0

Episode 51 of the Winnipeg Music Project is with returning guest and friend of the show Ed Durocher from Apollo Suns. Here to promote his upcoming and highly anticipated album release for Each Day a Different Sun, we hung out and talked about the behind the scenes and making of. Along with some teasing, Ed and I laughed about popular music and he shared stories about their successes in Europe. A great and entertaining interview! 

Set List:

Apollo Suns "An Iberian Peninsula"  from Each Day A Different Sun

Apollo Suns "An Impossible Bond" from Each Day A Different Sun

Apollo Suns "A lesson in Sharing" from Each Day A Different Sun

Ed Durocher from Apollo Suns

Ed Durocher from Apollo Suns

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Stacey James

This episode of the Winnipeg Music Project is with the lovely and talented Blues/Rock/Funk/Pop singer-songwriter Stacey James. We talked about her love of music from a very early age and how she blossomed into a multi-genre force to be reckoned with. 
Excited for her album release "11:11", Stacey shared her songwriting process and what the music on this album represents to her and her plans to move forward!
Stacey is a super sweet and talented lady and this interview is a definite tune in!

Set List:

Stacey James "Something You Regret" from 11:11

Stacey James "Wanna Sing" from 11:11

Stacey James "Walk to My Beat" from 11:11

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Justin Aron & DirtyPool

The thirty-third episode of the Winnipeg Music Project with Justin Aron from Justin Aron & Dirty Pool! We talk about their much anticipated new album and share some of their newest songs! Oh, btw, this is blues music. Not jazz. They are not the same thing.Also, here is a video interview Justin did with Canadian Beats promoting his music!

I also found this adorable short video of Justin talking about him and his music. This video perfectly depicts how wonderful and genuine he is. I loved talking with him so much. He called me the boss which is very accurate. And got him on my good side forever.

Since this interview, they've announced their official release show! Here is the event page!

Set List:

Justin Aron & DirtyPool "Juke Joint" from Juke Joint

Justin Aron & DirtyPool "Lordy Lord" 

Justin Aron & DirtyPool "Shakedown"

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Ed from Apollo Suns

The twenty-fifth episode of the Winnipeg Music Project with Ed from Apollo Suns, an emerging instrumental psychedelic jazz rock band. We had a really great time hanging out and talking about exposing yourself on campus radio, and making the decision to make music without lyrics.

Set List:

Apollo Suns "A Bird to Sing For"

Apollo Suns "A Study in Red"

Apollo Suns "A Lesson in Sharing"

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Martin Samoiloff

The twentieth episode of the Winnipeg Music Project with Martin Samoiloff where we talk about about his life involved in music and his improvisational music and song fusions of rock, jazz and some pop! 

Set List:

Martin Samoiloff "Out of My Mind" from Peace of Mind

Martin Samoiloff "TGIF" from Peace of Mind

Martin Samoiloff "Midsummer night" from Colour of Bliss

 

Here is a music video for his song "What is Enough?"

Nadia Douglas

The Sixteenth episode of the Winnipeg Music Project where Jazz singer Nadia Douglas shares her accidental but magnificent break through into the jazz music community.

Set List:

Nadia Douglas "Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby"

Nadia Douglas "Alright Ok You Win"

Russell Chan from RoofTop Static

The fifteenth episode of the Winnipeg Music Project where Russell Chan from Rooftop Static came to promote their awesome alternative groove tunes.

Set List:

RoofTop Static "Runaway"

RoofTop Static "Too Late"

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Mal Magorel

Did you miss this episode of the Winnipeg Music Project? That's okay! Or did you just want to hear it again? That's okay too! Here it is!

The Sixth Episode of the Winnipeg Music Project where I got to meet Mal Magorel a talented soul and funk singer. We talked about her beginnings as a songwriter and singer and how her most recent album Malfunction was born. A super fun interview and a definite interesting listen. 

Set List:

Mal Magorel "Malfunktion" from Malfunktion

Mal Magorel "Hey Rockstar" from Malfunktion

Erin Propp
www.ashleybieniarz.com - Pianist | Singer-Songwriter | Winnipeg Music Blogger Erin Propp

Instruments: Voice, Piano and Guitar

Genres: Jazz and Folk

I met with Erin back in July shortly after the birth of her beautiful second daughter. We met in a Joe Black coffee shop and enjoyed some yummy lattes while she chatted about her musical experiences. Quickly into the interview I realized how much Erin and I were alike. Her honest and intimate answers were so revealing about how much in common our musical goals are. She talked about patience and making the right decisions when you’re ready (something that constantly frustrates me) and about and much more. I feel we really connected (I hope Erin feels the same way) after that afternoon together. I later listened to her music again on Soundcloud (link at the end of the article) and after hearing about where her inspiration came from, everything just clicked. I absolutely love her voice with its folk and jazz influences and the guitar accompaniment perfectly compliments her voice. Definitely super talented. 


Ashley: Whenever you have a show? Are you contacting and hiring other musicians?

Erin:   I hire other people. For the most part I work with a guitarist and producer named Larry Roy. The music is ours, we write together so we are a duo. We go together. As much as I can when I’m out [working], I’ll work with Larry. Sometimes other people will hire me as a singer for their ensemble or group for whatever they are doing. I have occasionally, but not often because I focus so much of my time with Larry, I have done duo gigs with other people just to stretch myself and work with someone else and we’ll both contribute 50/50 to the music. Whether they are playing and I’m singing and who is choosing or writing the music.

Ashley: So, how long have you been singings?

Erin: My whole life, I’ve always loved to sing since I was little. I started taking lessons when I was twelve until I finished university when I was 27. I took piano lessons from age 6 to high school.

Ashley: So why did you make the decision to perform?

Erin: I have a lot of ‘youngest child’ qualities. There are four girls in my family and I am the third of four but I was the youngest child for nine years before my little sister was born so I always want to tell the funniest story at the family gathering. I want to do the funniest dance and everyone is going to watch me. I just want to be in front of people, it’s not because it doesn’t scare me because it always has and I get nervous all the time, but it was something I just felt I had to do. I felt I owed somebody and that I needed to be in front of people. I just liked it.

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Ashley: How often are you practicing singing?

Erin: Right now, none at all except for when I’m singing the odd lullaby, usually just silly songs that my kids like. Otherwise before any gig I’m learning the music, I’ll practice a lot. I practice a lot because I’m a teacher as well. I teach voice lessons so I practice what I give my students that I assign them. That becomes practice time and then before a gig, any music I’m working on; I’ll spend sometime really going through that stuff. It depends how much time I’m working. If you see me working, you know I’m practicing. Right now I’m not working so I’m not practicing. I’m breastfeeding my brains out right now. That’s what I’m doing. [laughs]

Ashley: Who inspires your music both lyrically and melodically?

Erin: Lyrically, my own experience’s from life. I’m finding my music is becoming, when I get a chance to write, is very domestic sounding and which makes sense because that’s where I am. I’m at home, I’m in our yard, I go grocery shopping, I feed children and I wipe bums. The things I’m doing, I don’t write about wiping bums, but stories that revolved around home and around those small things that happen. Those subtle moments between couples that tell a lot more than what it would appear to be on the outside.  Hopes that I have for my children, looking at years to come. The things that I’ve written for our first album, in a way were 15 years in the making for me. A lot of things I wrote for it were written years ago in my life that just needed to come out at some point. They finally came out on my first album; they were older stories.

Lyrically my music comes from personal experience but I also find that I don’t have enough personal stories or experiences to make that many songs very interesting. So I borrow from other people’s stories as well. One of my songs is a little bit about me but is a lot about a friend of mine too. I combined our two life stories into it.

One of the songs on my album is about my sister, my parents and my grandparents; I put them all together in one song. One song is about Larry, I try to include his feelings lyrically when we work together.

A few years ago, I wrote a song for a friend who had experience a great lost and that was the first time that I wrote for someone who was new in my life. A story that was a little bit at arms length, I didn’t know them as well [as the members of my family]. That was a step away for me.

Musically; chords, harmony and rhythm, that one is always really hard. I do that so much with Larry. I will write a lot of harmony for our songs. Probably the more and more my songs are being influenced now by songs from my childhood. Those are the songs that are coming back to me as I sing to my kids when I’m staying at home. Irish folk songs are coming back to me. A lot of my melodies sound pretty folky, but I try to make the harmony more interesting that just G, C and D because that’s really boring to me. When I’m writing harmony for something I ‘ll look at jazz standards that I learned in university and ones that I didn’t learn that I’m just learning now and I’ll copy something that they do. I’ll look at their chord progressions or I’ll just forget about my lyrics and put them to a jazz standard or I’ll take a jazz standard and put lyrics based to that. I’ll take a 4-measure section of a tune that I like and I’ll take that out and I’ll try to write something over it or maybe I’ll change one chord in the configuration to make it original and try to come up with a new melody over that. 

Ashley: So what accomplishments are you most proud of?

Erin: I was really proud of graduating from university. That was a big deal for me. It was a big deal for me to go back, I was 24 when I started the degree. A lot of my friends that I grew up with got married young and had kids. I got married young but we weren’t thinking of having kids yet at the time so choosing to do a four-year degree was putting it off until I was almost 30. But I honestly wasn’t thinking about that at the time.

I think part of me thought I could never do it. I had quit a couple things in years previous. I started projects and quit them and I was starting to feel that maybe that’s what I was, that I was a quitter. So starting to that degree and committing to four years was something I thought I would never be able to do. It was very scary. I deal with fears that have nothing to with music, I have some general anxiety problems and just some other stuff going that go around in life that make it hard to be around people are finish something. So I’m really really proud of that accomplishment.

Doing the album with Larry, when I started my degree and I met him, I never would have guess that I work with anyone on faculty. It’s a big accomplishment that he chose me as a friend and as someone to work with and since I was a kid, dreaming of being able to put my music on something tactile and giving to people. People had been asking since I was 15 for a recording. It took until I was 28 or 29 to put it out there.  That was a really big deal. It was a long time coming. 

Ashley: So you took some time before you put something out there. What advice do you have for people who want to do music that don’t feel like they’re ready to get their music out or are too afraid?

Erin: For not being ready, I would say its okay to not be ready. Most of the world is not ready and you want to feel ready. It’s an expensive thing to do if you want to do it well and you want to do it right and it’s a lasting thing to do. You want to feel like you’re in a project, whether is a band or solo act or working with a certain producer, you want to feel like you’re putting your time and effort, your gift, your talent and your studies, and your money behind something that is worth your while. It is okay to not be ready. You make yourself ready. I had opportunities before this album with Larry, and there was always something that felt a little funny. I just wasn’t sure that’s what I wanted to put my name behind first. And I don’t regret those decisions. It felt frustrating at the time; I would think, ”maybe I should just do it.” Maybe it’s different for other people but that’s how it was for me. I wanted it to be really really good. Some people in my life have told me I take things too seriously and maybe that’s true. Maybe I take myself too seriously but it’s worked for me. To be a serious person and wait for good timing, I think that there is a lot of value in delayed gratification. Take your time, it’s okay.

As for being afraid, well that’s just something that a some point that you just need to choose that its what you want to do and get out there and do it. I’ve chosen not to do something that I didn’t want to do and I’m let myself down in different areas where I just decided, “nope I’m too scared to do it.” You don’t want to have those big regrets at the end. Or maybe you don’t care, maybe you don’t mind living with a little regret. I do. I have a few regrets in my life that I wish they weren’t there, that’s why they are regrets. At some point you just need to chose it, and if you need to go to counseling it’s totally find, [I’ve] been there and probably will be there again, or you just need to start small, like talking to people about it. Doing a small coffee house show and only inviting people you feel comfortable with. That’s fine! Do what you need to do. Or you need to jump in and do something crazy to get you started. Maybe something crazy to you is getting up a jam session, maybe crazy to you is signing up for a noon hour recital or something. Yeah! That’s pretty scary, but maybe you need to do that one crazy thing, fail and fall on your face, that’s okay. Or maybe you’ll be awesome. At some point you need to choose. It might be something small, it might be something crazy. 

Ashley: What do you do when dealing with nerves before a performance?

Erin: Well what I want to do just not talk to anybody. People want to be all chatty and gabby with you and I’m just like, “get away.” I want to think of my music, go through the lyrics and go through a couple trouble spots that I’m particularly nervous about. I’ll go through five-or-so spots in my set, “this is the place where I could totally screw up and the song would fall apart” so I got over that part mentally. I started to try to do this thing called “positive visualization” where you imagine yourself going through your whole set flawlessly. Get all the bad stuff out of there and imagine yourself doing it flawlessly. I don’t like to talk to people, I’ll just do that alone.

Ashley: What is your favorite song to perform live?

Erin: For the past two years or so in Larry and my set, my favorite song to do it Waters of March. It’s not even an original it a standard by Antonio Carlos Jobim. (Click here to hear what it sounds like!) It’s normally done in Portuguese but I haven’t tried to learn the Portuguese yet. There are so many words in it but we do based on an arrangement based on Cassandra Wilson. I love her band, she always has a great band. Her arrangements are almost always really cool. The groove that Larry plays with it is really cool and it’s intense at the same time and it’s beautiful and its fun.

Ashley: How to do you balance music with other obligations?

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Erin: I’m learning. Right now I’m in phase where I have a newborn at home so it’s all about her. That’s all. It’s more of a mental balance that I have to remind myself every couple of days that this is what I’m meant to do right now. These are the choices I have made, I love her and it needs to be done. There is just nothing else. So that’s where I’m at [right now]. What we are planning is, she’s getting used to using a bottle now and now I can get out for a few hours in the evening and my husband can help out. I have never been someone whose want to gig multiple times a week just because I love to be at home and I love my kids and I love my husband and I want to be there. It takes a lot of planning. My obligations are my family so it’s just planning to make sure a kid is comfortable, breastfeeding and on the bottle so I can do rehearsals a couple times a week, do some studio time, finding really great babysitters and I have really great family to help out with that; and emotionally tearing myself away from my family once or twice a week to write and practice. I’m going to have to do that. I’m not there yet because she’s so young, but I’ll have to get there in the next couple of months. Making the choice to keep writing and sacrificing a few hours a week with my babies. I have to do that.  

Ashley: Do you feel that songwriters should have some sort of structured education for singing or do you think that as long as they are practicing everyday it’s okay?

Erin: I would really prefer to hear a voice that at least as the training over a voice that hasn’t.

Ashley: What do you hear when you listen to an untrained voice?

Erin: You can pick this stuff up when you have a good ear and listening to trained singers and figuring it out for yourself. You’ll hear a nasal tone, weird vowels and not that I don’t do weird vowels sometimes but there are some really weird vowels out there. You’ll hear people who really aren’t singing with their real voice yet because they don’t know how to breathe properly and it kills me. Not because that’s what I have to hear but that’s what they have to work with. They could be doing so much more. Just taking a couple lessons with somebody. I’ve had students that once they learn how to breathe properly, they sound completely different. Those kinds of things kind of drive me nuts. I think you can be a great singer without any formal training if you just have a good ear and are willing to get the best for yourself, then you’re going to reach out somehow. You’re going to figure it out somehow and that’s fine.

Ashley: What’s the best advice you’ve heard since you’ve started working in the music business?

Erin: The first thing that came to mind is not what you want to hear so let me thinking of something else

Ashley: No I want to hear!

Erin: Okay, I was at a music conference and Steve Bell was asked to play there. He’s a very well known Christian artist and he’s a great singer and guitar player. Every year he does a show with the WSO and it sells out. He’s won lots of awards and he’s from Winnipeg. This high school student stood up and asked “Mr. Bell, what would you say if I said I was interested in going into music, what advice would you give me?” And Steve said, “If there is anything else that you can do, you should do that.” He’s [meaning] instead of music. He’s talking as a person who is in his second half of life who has worked hard, I don’t know him personally but I imagine he works hard, to raise and support a family and he probably had things and lost things and had things and lost things and there is so much more stability in another career. You’d have to ask him specially why he said that but I found it very interesting and very honest. It makes you honestly look at yourself and what you want out of life. Do you want to buy a new blouse every week and go on a snowboard trip every winter and have a new car every 10 years or have a car? Do you want to not share an apartment with somebody? Do you want to not rely on sharing a rental space with someone? Then [music might not be] the route for you; you have to look at what kind of lifestyle you want and what expectations you have for your life.

The other best bit of advice or just statement that I heard was probably back in university and Steve Kirby said to someone in our class, “You don’t even know what your don’t know.” That has meant to a lot me. It’s meant a lot to me about humility, of not going into a situation assuming I know where everyone is coming from or that I know much about music at all. I have to assume that I can get something in any situation from other people that are positive things. That other people have wisdom to share from me. Instead of going and assuming that I’m the one who has the wisdom and that works everywhere in life. 

Selci and Gaby from Sapphire Empire
www.ashleybieniarz.com - Pianist | Singer-Songwriter | Winnipeg Music Blogger

Genre(s): Neo-Soul influenced by Jazz, Hip-Hop, Folk and experimental

Gaby's Instrument(s): Lead Guitar, Percussion

Selci's Instrument(s): Singer, electronics, guitar

I first met Gaby at the Faculty of Music at the University of Manitoba. We were both in the same chorus so I felt good about contacting her to interview her and Sapphire Empire. I had seen Selci on campus but hadn't had the opportunity to formally introduce myself. Gaby, Selci and I got together at the Hollow Reed and over some delicious tea and snacks, that I can’t remember the names of, we talked about Sapphire Empire. These girls must be on the same wavelength. They were so much fun to interview because they were constantly finishing each other’s sentences.

I love how this interview focused a lot on how to make a big band work. I've never experienced performing in a band and I had never asked any other the other artists I interviewed who were in bands what it was like.


Ashley: What started Sapphire Empire? Where did it come from?

Gaby: Well we met and started jamming together and it worked magically somehow.

Selci: Yeah, we met somehow. Apparently she used to see me on the bus but I didn’t see her.

Gaby: We also both go to the same faculty.

Selci: We met at a show and it was like “Oh I think I know you from choir”. Then we were like “let’s jam” and then we jammed and it was like ♪♫La la la, this is awesome! ♪♫ and still now every time we jam it’s like ♪♫La la la, this is awesome♪♫.

Gaby: We’re just good musical partners now somehow randomly comrades.

Ashley: So how did the whole band get together?

Gaby: Well we write the music primarily and then we have a lot of different members. We went through a few bass players and drummers. We ended up getting together with some people from the faculty of music. So our drummer Ben kidd, our keyboard player Anatol Rennie, our trumpet players Decarlo Jackson and Emily Kidd. They all go to the faculty of music. Our bass player is this little wunderkin, he’s this little 20 year-old who we met and he’s so good and wonderful. He doesn’t go to school with but we just love him so much.

Selci: He’s been in the band the longest and we love him dearly. His name is Lucas Redekop. We’ve had the group with all of us for about a year and a bit. It’s been a great band and it’s been super jamming, really great. And everyone is super down, so it’s nice! [laughs]

Ashley: How did you approach them? Did you know them first?

Gaby: We picked them out little by little we were like “Hey you know drums, you’re in the faculty, and I kind of know you; let’s jam.” And just like that.

Selci: and when we started jamming everyone realized how good it was. Everyone is a unit now. It’s really nice.

Ashley: What happens during these jam sessions?

Selci: I think if we just want to write music, sometimes we’ll just open jam and jam it out. That’s not an entire rehearsal though. Sometimes we will jam for a bit to get the juices flowing and then practice the songs that need work. Sometimes we will end up re-writing sections or change people’s parts.

www.ashleybieniarz.com - Pianist | Singer-Songwriter | Winnipeg Music Blogger

Gaby: Basically it’s three things:

  1. Someone has something that they would like to bring in that is incomplete and we will all work it.
  2. One it will be completely random and open and don’t really know what we’re doing.
  3. We’re fixing things or rehearsing. Making sure everything is tight if we have a show coming up.

Ashley: Is someone just playing and then someone else just joins in?

Gaby: Yeah they could yell out “this is in A minor and I’m going from First to Fifth to First” or Lucas will play a bass line and others will be like “ooh, what can I do with that.”

Selci: Even when we write the songs, we write the shell of the song but we aren’t writing every bass line or the drum charts. We bring it to the band and everyone adds their own artistic flavor and help complete it.

Ashley: Where does the name Sapphire Empire come from?

Selci: We were just brainstorming names for a show-

Gaby: No what happened was, we got a phone call for the very first show we were going to play and the woman who was printing the posters called and left a message saying “Hey, I’ll be printing the posters in an hour. Can you call me back with your band name?”

Selci: We were like “Uhhh”. This is when we had just been jamming for a few weeks and we were like “I don’t know.” We wanted something epic. I think somehow we were looking into names of different stones, we were searching books and sapphire came up which resonates a lot with me because it was my birth stone and I’ve been into it my whole life.

Gaby: and I thought it was funny that it was related to Sapphos which is the Greek island where they send all the lesbians and I thought it would be funny if people thought we were lesbians.

Selci: And empire rhymes with [sapphire]. It resonated with both of us and some people after even approached us saying, “oh that’s kind of like Sapphos” and we were like “oh cool, that’s good.” We’re pretty girl power.

Ashley:  What other bands or musicians inspires your music?

Selci: Erykah Badu and Amy Winehouse have really inspired my singing. Me personally, I’ve been listening to a lot of freak folk like Regina Spektor, Coco Rosie. Oh! Also MadLib.

Gaby: Nina Simone

Selci: Yeah for sure, she’s classic.

Gaby: She’s badass. She’s cool.

Selci: We probably listened to the same folk music when we were younger and then now we’ve transitioned into a lot more soul.

Gaby: Totally. I’d say I’m actually still into some kind of Jazz. If I had to name the top people that are really influential to me are Nina Simone, Charles Mingus, Q-Tip and Neil Young. 

Ashley: What is your songwriting process?

Selci: Different often. We are the most productive when Gabi and I get together on our own time and bring in little riffs that we’ve thought of or stuff that we’ve written on our own time. We then get together, mishmash parts, add stuff and then bring it to the band.  Sometimes we’ll do songwriting with the band but since there are six of us and it ends up being like “this is not going anywhere.”

Gaby: For me, the whole song just happens and I’ll write it out. Like the song High Fructose Corn Syrup I just wrote in one go. I didn’t write the words for it or anything so I brought it to Selci and she finished it.

Selci: Then we brought it to the band and refined the whole thing.

Gaby: So either the whole tunes comes out and then I give it to them to complete it or if I have little pieces of stuff I’ll come and meet Selci and we’ll sew them together.

Selci: Sometimes she’ll have a riff and I’ll have a riff and when we don’t know what to do with them, suddenly we’ll realize they work and we’ll smush them together and it will be this Frankenstein song.

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Gaby: but they don’t sound like Frankenstein songs.

Selci: No, they don’t! It works!

Gaby: Yeah, it’s weird.

Ashley: I’ve never written a song with someone else so I don’t know how to bounce ideas off someone.

Selci: It can be tricky breaking that barrier. Starting out as “Do you think this is okay?” and eventually being like “I don’t care if you like this or not, I’m just going to play it.” Sometimes we really like what the other person wrote.

Gaby: You just need to be comfortable. I write some really weird stuff and I’ll feel it’s too personal or it’s too much about really personal things that I’m sensitive about.

Selci: But’s that’s what people want to hear. The truth. The honesty.

Gaby: You should do it; it’s an interesting experience.

Ashley: With the band, what accomplishments are you most proud of?

Selci: Our EP release!

Gaby: That’s true, that was great!

Selci: We released an EP in the spring and I think it’s a really early sound. We recorded the first 5 tunes that Gaby and I first wrote together and recorded them over the year. We did it pretty casually because we had been in school full time and it was hard. We got together, released it and we had a really really nice EP release. We’re not necessarily promoting the crap out of it but we now have something to show and to listen to and to reflect on. Now we are going to move forward and we are currently working on a new sound and a new album.

Gaby: I think we’re proud of the EP and I’m just really happy with everyone in the band and how we all get along and respect each other. We can go on tour and not kill each other.

Selci: That’s probably the biggest thing. Having such a unit.

Gaby: The people are committed and amazing people. They’re responsible and we all get along.

Selci: They’re all super conscious individuals.

Ashley: What is your favorite song to perform with the Band?

Selci: I don’t think I have one.

Gaby: I like playing the song called Bebop; because it’s about how much I hate school.

Selci: I was going to say that is my least favorite one because it’s really hard. It challenges me but I have to say these words so fast and I have to make it sound good somehow.

Gaby: That’s fine; we don’t have to have the same one.  I didn’t think we would.

Ashley: Do you have any advice for people who want to start a big band?

Selci: Just keep asking people to play with you and then don’t get discouraged when people don’t keep playing with you or you don’t want to keep playing with someone. Keep on going.

Gaby: Yeah, don’t get discouraged. We went through so many people.

Selci: People have their own agenda and it’s hard to find people who mesh with you. Ask as many people as you can. And keep asking after that.

Gaby: If you see a band and you think their guitar player is really great, as them to jam! It can feel really discouraging and I think some people are reading this interview are thinking “they just got lucky and find the perfect band?”  But man, we went through tons of people and it was really frustrating.

Selci: We had a drummer for a long time that Gabi didn’t jive with that I was really attached to him and we didn’t know what to do. We almost broke up at one point but then felt we had to just keep going.

Gaby: It seems like the biggest deal, but it’s not.

Selci: People will see us in our band and ask how we have such a great band.

Gaby: Well, we went through so many people. Don’t worry, we went through it too.

Selci: It’s all what you manifest too. If you’re like “ooh no one wants to play with me! The world’s going to end!” Well, no one is going to want to play with you. But it you’re like “okay! I’ve got to keep trying because this is what I want to do!” Manifest that energy and people are going to want to play with you because you’re not being a bum hole.  I know it can be hard to find people to jam with but you just have to keep on looking.

Ashley: Where would you recommend to look?

Selci: At shows!

Gaby: Go to shows! Check out the music scene!

Selci: Check out some bands. There are so many awesome people playing. The scene in Winnipeg is thriving. There’s really good venues. If you don’t know where shows are happening, just go to the handsome daughter on any random night. Go to the Goodwill on any random night. Go to the Park theatre any random night. If you don’t like the bands, check another night! They have all genres.

Gaby: Just ask. I’m pretty sure if anyone asked anyone in the band to jam, we would say yes. I mean if someone asked me to jam I’d probably say yeah.

Selci: People ask me to jam all the time and sometimes I have to say “sorry I don’t have time right now “ or sometimes I do. You’ll definitely have to put yourself out there. If you’re not willing to do that it’s going to be pretty damn hard to find someone to jam with.

Ashley: What kind of stressful situations or challenges have you’ve had with being in a band?

Selci: Well now that we are a solidified band and we aren’t dealing with a lot of turnover of people. So I guess just making sure everyone is happy.

Gaby: and everyone’s needs are being met.

Selci: and everyone is feeling okay and comfortable. Gaby and I have moved through a lot as a result of being in a band together. We went into this band barely knew each other and then ended up seeing each other constantly.  We come from really different backgrounds.

Like Gaby is a first generation Mexican chick and she has crazy pride. She has experienced many things in her life that I’ll never experience with regards to oppression and race. With me, I’m the epitome of the type of person that she, like, want to be when she was a kid because that was what seen as the ideal or something. So she has a lot of really intense issues that I encompass. A lot of my beliefs for a long time were non-intentionally ignorant but a little ignorant because of my upbringing. I’m not aware of what it’s like to be a racial minority. I’m not aware of what it’s like to be a first generation immigrant. So there’s tons of stigma that I had and that she had from the opposite side of the spectrum that we’ve had to move through together.  And now we’re both way better people and we ‘ve learned so much from each other. I even think that’s on a large scale but even with relationships with other members of the band and we had to navigate how they work as a person. We want to make sure everyone is comfortable because when you are sharing such a bond with someone like making music you have to be on the same page as him or her. You can’t make music with someone when you don’t feel like you are one the same conscious level as him or her. It doesn’t feel satisfying or something substantial.

Gaby: Yeah, I think at this point we are just trying to navigate relationships. Because being in a band for us is like being in a big family. We have the music thing happening, we’re pretty organized, and we have goals that we want to accomplish in terms of careers and financial success or whatever. But we are focusing on being feasibly a working long-term functioning band. So we have all these plans, which is the easy part because the hardest part is the relationships.

Selci: Just making sure everyone is good.

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